Curse

mikeydj99 · Apr 17, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

Srry lol i was drunk earlir but seriously a sugestion... USe sup Tactics and use healng breeze instead of defensive... WHen you use galds defense put on vig healing breeze spam cyclone then just keep using cyclone axe and bonettis.....you can aggro every troll in the cave using this

dont feel no pain · Apr 17, 2006, 09:36 AM // 09:36

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Originally Posted by mikeydj99

Nub build... One.... The picture that is saying dont try this....ya i do that asleep and clear the whole cave in 2 mins. Two... Whoever said 16 tactics...good job! 16 tactics is the way to go...Three.... Healing Breeze FTW>..screw defensive stance

you do know that healing breeze acualy makes the run more dangerous ,

w/mo casts healing breeze followed by cyclone axe.....*trolls atttempt to disrupt breeze , they miss and hit cyclone axe >_<*

watch yourself > breeze

abd by the way, YOU sound like the noob with your seriously messed up spelling + the use of the word "nub"

mikeydj99 · Apr 18, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

You only use healing breeze when galds defense on...it works well and keeps your health up while reapplying VIG

Gigamaster89 · Apr 18, 2006, 02:08 AM // 02:08

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Originally Posted by mikeydj99

O and gg calling me a noob....i have 8 lvl 20s and im rank 7....gg though on calling me a noob

I let your stupid comment before slide, but this, come on?

The only thing having 8 level 20s show is that you need to go outside.

What dont feel no pain mean was that if you have healing breeze, you have TWO times the chance of having your cyclone interupted.

mikeydj99 · Apr 18, 2006, 04:03 AM // 04:03

YOU ONLY USE HEALING BREEZE WHEN GLADS DEFENSE IS ON DANGIT LISTEN FOR ONCe and if you want me to show you up pm me ign :Auron Bladehand

Death Shadow · Apr 18, 2006, 06:21 AM // 06:21

i have a different build but it takes too long maybe ill try this one

wheel · Apr 18, 2006, 10:45 AM // 10:45

A much faster and more efficient build for farming trolls as a warrior would be this:

Troll Farmer

Warrior/Monk
Level: 20

Strength: 5 (2+3)
Axe Mastery: 15 (12+3)
Tactics: 16 (12+4)
Healing Prayers: 2

- Cyclone Axe (Axe Mastery)
- Bonetti's Defense (Tactics)
- Gladiator's Defense [Elite] (Tactics)
- "Watch Yourself!" (Tactics)
- Disciplined Stance (Tactics)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Live Vicariously (Healing Prayers)

Preferable axe would be 15% while enchanted, +7 AL vs Physical, 3:1 Vampiric, which does more damage and heals you for a lot when you cyclone axe. Shield would be Crimson Carapace or a -2 dmg while in stance/-2 dmg while enchanted shield. Pretty self explanatory, but it's MUCH more efficient than the OP's build. And yes, you survive JUST fine with 2 healing and ONLY Live Vicariously.

EDIT: If anyone can find a more efficient build for soloing trolls as warrior primary, I would LOVE to know. Post it here and take the troll efficiency challenge.

]SK[ · Apr 18, 2006, 11:02 AM // 11:02

Not sure why you died on that last picture, I normally lure all in that cave. Never died before. Maybe your not hitting bonettis quick enough after using cyclone. You do have to be pretty quick to take minimal damage.

Gigamaster89 · Apr 18, 2006, 02:34 PM // 14:34

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Originally Posted by mikeydj99

You only use healing breeze when galds defense on...it works well and keeps your health up while reapplying VIG

It DOESN't MATTER when you use it, you still have a chance of being interupted. Even ig you have glads on, when you use vig spirit, they usually use disrupting chop, which ocasionally hits vig, sometimes cyclone, if you use healing breeze AND vig, your either going to be the breeze disrupted from the miss disruption of vig or get your cyclone disrupted.

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A much faster and more efficient build for farming trolls as a warrior would be this:

Troll Farmer

Warrior/Monk
Level: 20

Strength: 5 (2+3)
Axe Mastery: 15 (12+3)
Tactics: 16 (12+4)
Healing Prayers: 2

- Cyclone Axe (Axe Mastery)
- Bonetti's Defense (Tactics)
- Gladiator's Defense [Elite] (Tactics)
- "Watch Yourself!" (Tactics)
- Disciplined Stance (Tactics)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Live Vicariously (Healing Prayers)

It's like...similar, except more axe mastery and less healing ^^

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Not sure why you died on that last picture, I normally lure all in that cave. Never died before. Maybe your not hitting bonettis quick enough after using cyclone. You do have to be pretty quick to take minimal damage.

I think it was because instead of hitting Bonettis, I hit Print Screen XD

Pruts · Apr 19, 2006, 04:59 PM // 16:59

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Originally Posted by wheel

A much faster and more efficient build for farming trolls as a warrior would be this:

Troll Farmer

Warrior/Monk
Level: 20

Strength: 5 (2+3)
Axe Mastery: 15 (12+3)
Tactics: 16 (12+4)
Healing Prayers: 2

- Cyclone Axe (Axe Mastery)
- Bonetti's Defense (Tactics)
- Gladiator's Defense [Elite] (Tactics)
- "Watch Yourself!" (Tactics)
- Disciplined Stance (Tactics)
- Sprint (Strength)
- Executioner's Strike (Axe Mastery)
- Live Vicariously (Healing Prayers)

Preferable axe would be 15% while enchanted, +7 AL vs Physical, 3:1 Vampiric, which does more damage and heals you for a lot when you cyclone axe. Shield would be Crimson Carapace or a -2 dmg while in stance/-2 dmg while enchanted shield. Pretty self explanatory, but it's MUCH more efficient than the OP's build. And yes, you survive JUST fine with 2 healing and ONLY Live Vicariously.

EDIT: If anyone can find a more efficient build for soloing trolls as warrior primary, I would LOVE to know. Post it here and take the troll efficiency challenge.

Disciplined stance? I'd go with defensive stance: lasts longer, lower energy cost, and doesn't end when using exec strike. (you'll move 33% slower but you're not moving anyway)

Edit: I meant shield stance

Wexnar · Apr 19, 2006, 05:08 PM // 17:08

Can I replace Gladiator's Defense with something else? Im 14 lvl W/Mo and im not even near to desert, so i cant cap GD =<

wheel · Apr 19, 2006, 05:22 PM // 17:22

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Originally Posted by Pruts

Disciplined stance? I'd go with defensive stance: lasts longer, lower energy cost, and doesn't end when using exec strike. (you'll move 33% slower but you're not moving anyway)

Edit: I meant shield stance

Disciplined stance is very much a filler. You can do the run completely with out it, but it makes it easier. I'll try out Shield Stance, though, sounds good to me.

Pruts · Apr 19, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

I wouldn't really call it a filler; it's great to start your farm combo.
While all trolls are still running towards you, activate it. Once all trolls have surrounded you, use Gladiators. you take minimal damage and deal maximum

Pruts · Apr 19, 2006, 05:44 PM // 17:44

and Wexnar: Gladiators defense is pretty much mandatory for this build. It's your main damage dealer.

Gigamaster89 · Apr 19, 2006, 06:29 PM // 18:29

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Originally Posted by Wexnar

Can I replace Gladiator's Defense with something else? Im 14 lvl W/Mo and im not even near to desert, so i cant cap GD =<

You can't replace it but you can do it without it. It'll just take forever since your relying on Cyclone to kill them, max Axe Mastery FTW =)

Or, without GD, try out the riposte builds floating around.

EDIT - Edits made based on Further Testing.

jimmyhats · Apr 20, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

im not gonna lie, troll cave is mighty easy.

the w/mo cyclone build is pretty generic, and you seem to have posted a somewhat ineffective version of it.

8 heal, 3 str, 13 axe, 14 tactics... superior tactics rune

Lord Osi · Apr 21, 2006, 05:02 PM // 17:02

Very nice guide, I'v did about 50 runs?
Rare Fellbalde (was req. 11 13% enchanted)
Black Dye
Dozen's of Common Dyes
Rare Compisite Bow
Rare Half Moon
Shiverpeak keys 6+
Rare Wooden Buckler
Its decent, I cant remember all the rares, but I'v gotten plenty.

Nice guide

lilnate22 · Apr 25, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55

ya its good
but idk i used my own thing... i used mending and doyalak instead of sprint def stance and it did me wonders gj man great build

Texas Snyper · Apr 25, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Interesting setup. I created mine out of my ettin build but got moddified for the trolls, heres mine and it works beautifully for me. Although my explaination repeats a lot of the OP, there are several key differences do to the differences of the build. Unfortunatly i dont have video. If any body wants one, pm me and ill think about making one.

W/Mo

Cyclone Axe (axe)
Watch Yourself (tactics) (last 10 secs)
Bonetti's Defense (tactics) (last 10 secs)
Glads Defense [elite] (tactics) (last 10 secs)
Dolyak Signet (strength) (last full 20 secs till recharge)
Live Vicariously (heal)
Balthazar's spirit (smite)
Mending (heal)

Healing - 8
Strength - 15 (12+3)
Axe Mastery - 9 (5+4)
Tactics - 12 (9+3)
smite - 2 (all your leftover)

full glads w/ ascalon boots and axe hat
sup vigor, major absorb (yes major), sup strength, sup axe, sup tactics
3/1 vamp axe of defense (+5 armor)
tanzits cleaver for running there (+30 hp)
grognar's defender (same as -2 dmg +45 health stance shield)

DO NOT BE AFRAID IF YOU HEALTH DIPS TO LESS THAN 1/3. if you hit cyclone axe will full troll agro you will be healed for 13 health per troll (3 from vamp + 10 from LV), thats AT LEAST 200 health if you have full troll agro.

What I do is mending right away and then start running to the cave. If there are any mobs in the way, I will put up balthazar's spirit (for bonus E while running to cave) and then run to cave. they always drop aggro by the time i enter the cave. If they dont, they will as I'm grabbing the troll agro. If you do shack agro before cave let yourself get healed up and run to agro all trolls. Again dont turn left or right as you will probably lose agro of first LARGE mob of trolls.

As soon as you get all your agro, hit glads defense, dolyak, and live vicariously in that order. Then you cyclone axe and hit watch yourself, and start attacking a troll. As soon as cyclone axe charges hit it again. Then again. Just before the 3rd cyclone is ready, glads should be wearing down and you use bonetti's. DONT be without a stance for too long, you will lose health fast. At this point you will be hitting cyclone axe + watch yourself every time cyclone charges. You should hit watch yourself before cyclone hits so that after it does it will be fully charged again as well as bonnettis' defense. Use bonettie's defense. cycle through till glads is charged and go through the whole cycle again till all of them are dead.

As long as you keep dolyak+watch yourself up the few non-attack skills that hit through bonettis or glads will do 0-4 dmg a hit. With mending +3 as well as healing for 13 health per hit. the trolls simply CANNOT kill you as long as you keep a stance up and cyclone when its charged. With this build the only problems I can see you having is all the damage you take before you finally get all the trolls rounded up and cyclone axe that first one for massive heal. If, while grabbing all the troll agro, you think you're taking too much damage dont be afraid to hit glads defense early to reduce the hits you take. You can still dolyak + live vicariously after you get all the trolls and it wont mess up your order of skills since its about a 5 sec cycle of cyclone+watch yourself followed by bonnettis w/ glads every 30 secs and dolak every 20 secs.

Age · Apr 25, 2006, 09:31 PM // 21:31

May I ask you why you put your absorbtion rune in your leggings instead of your boots where it suppose to go?